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Last post 09-30-2008, 4:14 AM by Jim Penny. 15 replies.
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  •  09-28-2008, 8:41 AM 60331

    SE MN Bird cannot ID

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    SE Minnesota I saw this gray and yellow bird that I cannot seem to identify.  Any suggestions?

     


  •  09-28-2008, 9:35 AM 60334 in reply to 60331

    Re: SE MN Bird cannot ID

    its not there
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  •  09-28-2008, 10:03 AM 60336 in reply to 60331

    Re: SE MN Bird cannot ID

    Except for a color statement and location you sort of left it wide open! 

    But, I going to take a shot and hope that you have a Guide to check.  For starters, take a look at a Great Crested Flycatcher and the Connecticut Warbler. 

    But, we really need some more details.  Such as, maybe size range by comparison to a well known bird, the locations of the colors on the bird, did it have an eye-ring or wingbars, and any other noteworthy observation.

  •  09-28-2008, 12:20 PM 60340 in reply to 60331

    Re: SE MN Bird cannot ID

    Sorry Shad.  your picture didn't come through.  Try again
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  •  09-28-2008, 3:02 PM 60363 in reply to 60331

    Re: SE MN Bird cannot ID

    Sorry about that.  Here is the photo now.
  •  09-28-2008, 4:05 PM 60371 in reply to 60363

    Re: SE MN Bird cannot ID

    Looks like maybe Mourning or Connecticut Warbler.  Not sure if the Connecticut is in that area.

    Nancy

     

  •  09-28-2008, 4:59 PM 60375 in reply to 60331

    Re: SE MN Bird cannot ID

    Kinda hard to tell for sure... can't see the wings enough to see if there are any wingbars. Also can't see the legs. From what I can see , though, it looks like a Nashville Warbler. The gray head, white eye-ring, yellow breast, yellow undertail coverts, and green back and what I can see of the wings, also greenish, all point to Nashville. Well within it's range, too.

    Edit: I think the eye-ring is too well-defined for a Mourning Warbler, and the yellow undertail coverts are too short for a Connecticut....... at least according to the descriptions and field marks listed in my Sibley's.


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  •  09-28-2008, 7:31 PM 60398 in reply to 60375

    Re: SE MN Bird cannot ID

    Great!  Thank you so much for the information!
  •  09-29-2008, 3:36 AM 60417 in reply to 60398

    Re: SE MN Bird cannot ID

    Now that the picture came through it looks like one of my guesses pointed in the right direction.  You only have to decide between three Warblers.
  •  09-29-2008, 9:57 AM 60448 in reply to 60417

    Re: SE MN Bird cannot ID

    Hi, Shad
    That would be a American Redstart.

    Note the yellow base of tail, yellow sides, and black tail. Yellow base of tail is wrong for a Oporonis warbler, as well as the black tail. The bird doesn't strike me as having the shape of the Oporonis warblers I've seen either.

    Good Birding!
    Joe L
     


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  •  09-29-2008, 11:14 AM 60458 in reply to 60448

    Re: SE MN Bird cannot ID

    JoeL:

    Hi, Shad
    That would be a American Redstart.

    Note the yellow base of tail, yellow sides, and black tail. Yellow base of tail is wrong for a Oporonis warbler, as well as the black tail. The bird doesn't strike me as having the shape of the Oporonis warblers I've seen either.

    Good Birding!
    JoeL
     

    You may well be right, JoeL.....I'm no expert on Warblers by any means! I can see characteristics of both in the photo. Part of the body is blocked by limbs, but it looks to me that the tail is too short in proportion to the body for a Redstart. And it appears to me that the yellow is the undertail coverts, not the tail feathers themselves as would be the case for a Redstart. Not sure about the bill, since it may be partially blocked by another limb. Tough call .


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  •  09-29-2008, 12:59 PM 60464 in reply to 60458

    Re: SE MN Bird cannot ID

    Bird brain:
    The tail is cocked, giving the impression of a much shorter tail. The head should be pale gray instead of just plain gray, on Mourning. And with Connecticut structure should be completely different. The black tail is not a feature shared with the Oporornis genus.

    Maybe the poster of this thread could tell us what the underparts of the bird looked like?
    And also if he/she has another picture.

    Take a look at this picture, of a female American Redstart.

    Joe L


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  •  09-29-2008, 1:57 PM 60474 in reply to 60464

    Re: SE MN Bird cannot ID

    Joel,

    Thank you!

    I must admit that I didn't even think of a Redstart, but now that I look, I believe you're correct.  I kind of wondered about that yellow down by the tail.....

    The photo sure made it look like more of the breast was yellow than what I would think was on a Redstart.  Just when I thought I was starting to know something about birds, something like this comes along and makes me think I'm back at square one!!!

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    Nancy

  •  09-29-2008, 3:59 PM 60489 in reply to 60474

    Re: SE MN Bird cannot ID

    The yellow on the tail means it has to be a redstart.
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  •  09-29-2008, 10:02 PM 60557 in reply to 60331

    Re: SE MN Bird cannot ID

    I yield to those who know these species better than I do. Like I said, I'm no expert on Warblers, and I never even thought of it being a Redstart.

    Sorry I misidentified it for you, Shad. However, I learned something from this thread. Good call, JoeL.


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